First Ever REAL Wii Modchip Arrives - CycloWiz!

[Zeus]

It seems that Wiinja is already outdated even before its release. Fedex dropped a nice little gift for us today to review. Say hello to CycloWiz!

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Here is what we know so far about this chip:

- Quicksolder (no wires required)
- Plays Wii Backups
- Plays GC Backups
- Play GC Homebrew
- Play GC Imports (swap needed)
- Built-in Audiofix (GC games using streaming are working flawlessly, no patch needed)
- DVD-R / DVD+R support
- Optional chip disable wire
- Stealth even when chip is enabled
- Multi-purpose LED

The chip is supposed to be shipped by the end of the week, so in fact this may be the first "real" Modchip to reach the market!

It looks like a very pro and easy to install solution! We're not sure Wiinja has built-in audiofix, but this is definitely a must-have feature. Expect a review soon, including a video of the installation process!

The teams' website is launching soon at <a href="http://www.teamcyclops.com" target="_Blank">Teamcyclops.com</a>

[So-Unreal]

sounds cool.

[thePANICHIOteam]

at last a complete solution. Time to dust off the soldering iron. :cool:

[uzi]

now this is a chip to get hope its in the 40$ range

[soussi]

Lol there goes the wiinja héhé

Mm will it support all region backups? I m very interested in this little wizard...

Grzzz

[XviD]

there's no difference to the wiinja chip except for the switch..

[bobmcbob]

Exactly the same as the other. So how is this better or more real in any way? Oh wait i can guess how......

[snafro]

is there a possibility to upgrade this chip ?

[JimmyHACK_KH]

"First Ever REAL Wii Modchip Arrives"


more like " First Ever REAL Wiinja Clone Arrives "

someone robbed wiinja of a few chips a couple weeks ago?? ha


heh it is just the wiinja on on a quicksolder pcb and a on off switch

no doubt it doesn't update either



let's see if this is the revenue maker for maxconsole based on how much they advertise it ( and after the anti0wiinja story posted earlier)

[fRUiTDEV]

No spectacular features. I prefer the PIC-sized solution I guess..

[lenselijer]

i'm glad i ordered the wiinja already, this will take a while to come out, and i guess it will be more expensive then the wiinja chip.

[thePANICHIOteam]

someone robbed wiinja of a few chips a couple weeks ago?? ha


heh it is just the wiinja on on a quicksolder pcb and a on off switch

no doubt it doesn't update either

A lot more thought has cleary gone into the design process. Its not just a Bish bosh of a standard pic chip with some hex flash code on it.

Which would you rather have???

Use your head mate, There is no comparison between this and the winja.

The winja isnt even a real mod. Theyre charging you for a bit of code.

[mattyv]

I see that it has more features, but I don't see that it is able to be updated.
without that, if the big N decides to roll out an update, or include one in future games, you would have a useless chip in your Wii.

[avalon]

Are you sure the wiinja has built-in audiofix? It's not in the feature list.

I almost preorder mine but I don't want to have half of my GC game collection with audio not working, if I can avoid that... I will wait for this new CycloWiz!

[soussi]

I see that it has more features, but I don't see that it is able to be updated.
without that, if the big N decides to roll out an update, or include one in future games, you would have a useless chip in your Wii.

that's why there is the stealth mode for no?...

[thestrang3r]

just a little comparison between this and the Wiinja:

- Quicksolder (no wires required) == Wiinja needs wires
- Plays Wii Backups == Wiinja too
- Plays GC Backups == Wiinja too
- Play GC Homebrew == Wiinja: unknown...but as GC-headers aren't signed, the Wiinja should be capable of this, too
- Play GC Imports (swap needed) == Wiinja propably too when swaping is used
- Built-in Audiofix (GC games using streaming are working flawlessly, no patch needed) == Wiinja: unknown
- DVD-R / DVD+R support == Wiinja too
- Optional chip disable wire == Wiinja too (if you are smart enough)
- Stealth even when chip is enabled == Wiinja too...As both chips attack the firmware and Big N most likely can't check it
- Multi-purpose LED == Wiinja doesn't has this feature, but who needs it?

In the end this is not a real modchip, too! We first have to be capable of running unsigned Wii-headers, than we have real modchips

[JimmyHACK_KH]

A lot more thought has cleary gone into the design process. Its not just a Bish bosh of a standard pic chip with some hex flash code on it.

Which would you rather have???

Use your head mate, There is no comparison between this and the winja.

The winja isnt even a real mod. Theyre charging you for a bit of code.

surely yes they cleansed up the appearance and produced a higher quality design, but still same end result.. mods are always sold for profit of the code anyway

[msaraiva]

Are you sure the wiinja has built-in audiofix? It's not in the feature list.

I almost preorder mine but I don't want to have half of my GC game collection with audio not working, if I can avoid that... I will wait for this new CycloWiz!

With Wiinja, you can run GCOS. So, there you go, audio fix for gc games. Please, stop with this crap of "FIRST REAL". They're both modchips, but wiinja came to be first. Enough.

[JimmyHACK_KH]

With Wiinja, you can run GCOS. So, there you go, audio fix for gc games.


audio stream fix was resolved ages ago adn anything new that says plays gc backups will work fine with audio, it's is just some pointless thing to add to a "feature list"

[uzi]

The chip is supposed to be shipped by the end of the week, so in fact this may be the first "real" Modchip to reach the market!
do u mean u diont have it yet? or its goin to be in stock at online places?

It looks like a very pro and easy to install solution! We're not sure Wiinja has built-in audiofix, but this is definitely a must-have feature. Expect a review soon, including a video of the installation process!
this whole sentence is messed up i think its suppose to be like this
It looks like a pro and very easy to install solution!
We're not sure why the Wiinja doesnt have built-in audiofix, but this is
definitely a must-have feature. Expect a review soon, including a
video of the installation process!

[avalon]

With Wiinja, you can run GCOS. So, there you go, audio fix for gc games.
This is wrong. GCOS can not do firmware patching as usual on the WII, that's what you need a modchip (there are some threads about this). So if the chip doesn't have built-in audiofix, you'll be stuck with bad audio. And it seems wiinja doesn't have build-in audiofix!

[msaraiva]

A lot more thought has cleary gone into the design process. Its not just a Bish bosh of a standard pic chip with some hex flash code on it.

Which would you rather have???

Use your head mate, There is no comparison between this and the winja.

The winja isnt even a real mod. Theyre charging you for a bit of code.

I bet this uses the same code. It's not an IPL replacement after all, it's just a drivechip. I won't be paying for both. The code will be avaible sooner or later and i'll DO IT MYSELF.

[thebobevil]

"First Ever REAL Wii Modchip Arrives"


more like " First Ever REAL Wiinja Clone Arrives "

someone robbed wiinja of a few chips a couple weeks ago?? ha


heh it is just the wiinja on on a quicksolder pcb and a on off switch

no doubt it doesn't update either

This was separtely developed, and has nothing to do with Team Ninja's chip.

It has features the Wiinja doesn't.

[PwNdN1nJ4]

I wonder how itll fit into the wii with no soldiering required. maybe it jus clips onto the mother board. Anyway, good work! Hope its out soon at a good price.
Brutal!

[enb141]

Guys do you know if this chip can be updated (BIOS Upgradable) ?

[JimmyHACK_KH]

this whole sentence is messed up i think its suppose to be like this
It looks like a pro and very easy to install solution!
We're not sure why the Wiinja doesnt have built-in audiofix, but this is
definitely a must-have feature. Expect a review soon, including a
video of the installation process!


they don't say it doesn't have streaming audio fix, just noone is sure cause it hasn't been brought up... most likely it does have it since its really not an added feature but just a standard part of gc backup playing

[idunder]

A lot more thought has cleary gone into the design process. Its not just a Bish bosh of a standard pic chip with some hex flash code on it.

Which would you rather have???

Use your head mate, There is no comparison between this and the winja.

The winja isnt even a real mod. Theyre charging you for a bit of code.

They are the same thing in the sense of what they do. This new mod, that chip on there might be a Stamp chip for all we know. It might be total overkill for simple data injection.

The ONLY benefit to the new one, MIGHT be that it handles the audio fix on the fly.

They both inject data, this new mod is just a different setup.

They both have code, the PIC is just easier to reverse engineer. (And basic PICs are less capable)

And when someone does reverse engineer the wiinja, and extracts the code. Prices for the chip with code will only be like $15.00

[JimmyHACK_KH]

bring On More Clones, Lets Have Us Some $10 Dollar Mods Asap

[Code6226]

OK, I can see how this chips is better than the wiinja.

But calling it a "real" modchips is an overstatement. It's not a "real" modchip until you can do wii homebrew, if you ask me.

[Tom0303]

How can a drive hack do a Audio Fix? Don't understand this, this chip is ptching on need the DVD drive Firmware. What has the drive firmware to do with a Audio Fix?

br

Tom

[avalon]

OK, I can see how this chips is better than the wiinja.

But calling it a "real" modchips is an overstatement. It's not a "real" modchip until you can do wii homebrew, if you ask me.
I agree... This CycloWiz is no doubt much better than Wiinja, but the real winner will be a chip featuring true wii homebrew. I think we'll wait a long time for this one, but nothing is impossible.

[Rackerz]

It's not a real one, it's a 'real' one. I don't care what it does as long as it plays backups and is upgradeable so it can't be pissed on by Nintendo.

Can anyone confirm whether it's upgradeable or not?

[soussi]

I agree... This CycloWiz is no doubt much better than Wiinja, but the real winner will be a chip featuring true wii homebrew. I think we'll wait a long time for this one, but nothing is impossible.

i think the chip-war has just began and now we will see lots of new stuff comming out :)

Grzzz

[idunder]

OK, I can see how this chips is better than the wiinja.

But calling it a "real" modchips is an overstatement. It's not a "real" modchip until you can do wii homebrew, if you ask me.

A modchip is ANY chip that when installed modifies the operation of a device.

The term modchip with consoles started with the PSX1, and it did NOT allow homebrew to run. Gen 1 was also a simple PIC chip.

[alexand333r]

Although this is a better solution with a few more features then the Wiinja it is still the second chip to be produced. Zues and his wild imagination. I hope it burns down his house.

[rccool111]

What is the difference between quicksolder and regular solder? And what is one easier than the other?

[JimmyHACK_KH]

Although this is a better solution with a few more features then the Wiinja it is still the second chip to be produced. Zues and his wild imagination. I hope it burns down his house.


could you list the "more" features?

on/off switch you can make one for wiinja, if on off switch even matters anymore

[avalon]

it is still the second chip to be producedNo, it's the second chip to be announced. :D As none was shipped to customers yet and both should be shipped this week, the place for #1 produced is still available, but who cares anyway...

[soussi]

Although this is a better solution with a few more features then the Wiinja it is still the second chip to be produced. Zues and his wild imagination. I hope it burns down his house.

He never said it was the first but he said its is the first "real" mod-chip... and with that he could have meant that it is the first "real" looking mod-chip around...

But hell it doesn't matter what is first or last... the best item survives and the best item i need...

[JimmyHACK_KH]

What is the difference between quicksolder and regular solder? And what is one easier than the other?

you solder the chip pcb board to the wii board directly, you can use wires still if wanted, its a nice option but one is no easier than the other, you still are soldering the same amount of points either way.

[avalon]

What is the difference between quicksolder and regular solder? And what is one easier than the other?You don't need any wires, just put the chip PCB over the drive's PCB and fill the holes with solder. It just takes less time for installation. Llooking at the pictures you can also use wires if you want to.

[alexand333r]

What is the difference between quicksolder and regular solder? And what is one easier than the other?

The difference is quicksoldering you solder the points directly onto the motherboard where as normal soldering you connect wires between the points. Both have their negatives and positives. Quicksoldering you can accidently put too much solder on the point and bridge (join two points). Soldering itself is pretty easy to do so if you're experienced either method is viable. It's just marketing hype saying one is easier then the other. I'd be more concerned with the features then how you install the thing. Oh, if you don't know how to solder then I suggest you Google and learn :)

[JimmyHACK_KH]

No, it's the second chip to be announced. :D As none was shipped to customers yet and both should be shipped this week, the place for #1 produced is still available, but who cares anyway...
it is second produced, first sample seen today, when wiinnja samples have already been supplied elsewhere and installed.

[G-SAS]

you solder the chip pcb board to the wii board directly, you can use wires still if wanted, its a nice option but one is no easier than the other, you still are soldering the same amount of points either way.

Quicksolder layouts can be soldered without wires, but I don't like it. If you mess up and have to solder again you can easily de-solder parts of your modchip and/or your Wii platine. Happened to me once while installing a XenoGC.

So I will tape the chip to the Wii case and connect it by wire.

[JimmyHACK_KH]

Quicksolder layouts can be soldered without wires, but I don't like it. If you mess up and have to solder again you can easily de-solder parts of your modchip and/or your Wii platine. Happened to me once while installing a XenoGC.

So I will tape the chip to the Wii case and connect it by wire.

yes i agree wiring is a more "professional" and smarter way to install, but it is ok i guess with the option there for either install... it is just sad they try to sucker people into thinking its "easier" for marketing :)

[HotDogWater]

Come on team viper! come out of the woodwork :D

[msaraiva]

How can a drive hack do a Audio Fix? Don't understand this, this chip is ptching on need the DVD drive Firmware. What has the drive firmware to do with a Audio Fix?

br

Tom

I second that. The only way would be thru GCOS or other IPL replacement, but "avatar" stated that it can't patch the IPL on the wii, unlike the gamecube.

[anarchiest]

anyone seen a place to pre order yet?

[kronikdaddy]

Come on team viper! come out of the woodwork :D


I'm thinking my viper chip in my GC will be stuck in my Wii someday.
Everything this mod does can be done with a ViperGC soldered in the right place and flashed with the right code.

[Schweino]

Come on team viper! come out of the woodwork :D

Yeah Team Viper, give us another overpiced chip with no support after you have cashed in!

I would't spend another dime on them......

[Merle]

So there is still the prob with this chip, that nintendo can undo it with an software upgrade?

And could we play dvdmovies with these chips, that would be nice, instead of waiting for nintendo to come with an update

[xghost360]

looks crap like the other chip but on pcb board i think any 1 would be able to makea new wii chip,there be loads soon after feb

[Quantumsource]

the wiinja only has 8 pins on it. and only 3 are really used (as the other 2 are for power) The diagram of the one shown looks like way more complex circuity, but if you look closely it looks like it solders to the exact same points. What those points, I have no clue. But it seems to me that the basic principle of what is going on is the same (and just looks different)

[cory149]

The one thing this has over any others:
Fedex dropped a nice little gift for us today to review. Say hello to CycloWiz!
It definitely exists and hopefully whoever was visited by FedEx can tell us more soon about how well it works.

Quantumsource: the pins these two chips connect to are apparently a serial port on the drive unit. I saw a method of injecting executeable code into the drive chip a short while ago that it is quite possible these chips are based on.

[tralalawala]

there's no difference to the wiinja chip except for the switch..

Exactly. So if the wiiiiiiiinja is outdated before it's relase, so is this.

I'd rather have a pic chip that I'll be able to program myself in a few weeks for less than $1/£0.60p when the code is released rather than this overpriced pile of monkey-sputum. All they've done is made it harder for a hobbyist to clone (protecting their $$$, thats not even their $$$ seeing as it's just a clone).

[tommasi]

ya i just need the code i can make the chip my self :D

[msa]

how do you install the chip?
how does this quicksolder-system work?
i have seen several modchips with the "no wires needed"-feature. so how to install them?

[msaraiva]

how do you install the chip?
how does this quicksolder-system work?
i have seen several modchips with the "no wires needed"-feature. so how to install them?

put it in the right place and fill the holes with solder

[soussi]

quicksolder system doesnt need any wireing so u just put it on its place on the board then fill in the holes to attach the mod-chip on the board...

[hartleyshc]

look likes its time to finally buy a wii.

[Perkele]

If they released this modchip as a bare PIC chip instead of a pcb with quicksolder holes, they'd probably had beaten the Wiinja.
It takes alot more time to design and produce a pcb based chip than to flash a PIC chip.

Which one's next, the XenoWii , DuoWii?

BTW, it looks like CycloWiz uses the exact same chip as the one of the Duo-Q.

[avalon]

Anyone here know for a fact if wiinja has built-in audiofix or not?

It looks like it doesn't : http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=389307#post389307

[xllzerollx]

wiinja sucks and the makers of it too, dont deserve to even be in the news, riping off ppl for that 2$ chip and some hex, i hope this one is cheaper.
or i just buy the damn chip and program it when the code gets released, or w8 for a team we do know to release one

[idunder]

wiinja sucks and the makers of it too, dont deserve to even be in the news, riping off ppl for that 2$ chip and some hex,

Any of these modchips that rely on injecting code are all based on "some hex"

Your paying for the work and time someone did to make it happen. I have no doubt the PIC that the Wiinja uses will be reverse engineered, it takes tools though to cut the chip down and fuse it back to read the PIC data. It took over 1.5 years for someone to release FREE PIC code for the PSX 1 PIC's.

No doubt it will happen quicker, but who knows how quickly.

It's funny to see people comment on CycloWiz and say, glad I did not buy the wiinja, I will buy this! It's the same premise, just a different chip. What because someone uses a chip that is NOT a PIC, but serves the same functionality the only reason they (the makers of the CycloWiz used it is because it's harder to reverse engineer, then it's not a rip off?

[tommasi]

i hate quick solder chips and i never use them, easy to install and f*ck up ur system if u wanna remove it thats if u can

[The_Nothing]

This is great, but I really want chips that can be upgradeable in case Nintendo does some things to the firmware that will prevent these chips from working.

It would suck to go out and buy these chips only for it to become useless because of a firmware update by Nintendo. To remove the chip as well would be a hassle.

I'm glad these chips are coming out, it means more will be on the way. I will wait for a more advanced chip that will have upgrade features and stuff.

[Cobra.uK]

If this CycloWiz chip is upgradable (which I doubt with the facts given) then Ill install it, if not then I won't bother, I don't want some piece of **** stuck on my Wii board if Nintendo bring out an update that new games need.

[ejx982]

Well, I think it's time for me to find a Wii. Then I'll wait a few weeks AFTER the release of both chips & see. Is it really a dream to think the Qoob Mod chips can be reflashed to work in a Wii? I have two, a Qoob SX & a Qoob Pro. I'd rather pull one of those out, re-flash and stick it in a Wii. I guess only time will tell if someone can rip the code from both those chips.

I honestly, don't want to spend more than $30 (after shipping) for a chip that isn't flash upgradable.
ejx982

[thebobevil]

i'm glad i ordered the wiinja already, this will take a while to come out, and i guess it will be more expensive then the wiinja chip.


Read the article properly.

The CycloWiz is due out this week also.

[iazybandit]

Read the article properly.

The CycloWiz is due out this week also.
Wiinja is supposedly due out this week too (Feb 1)

[Perkele]

Your paying for the work and time someone did to make it happen.
The guys that made this happen were tmbinc (for releasing the password) and Erant (maker of Wii DVD Drive Serial Tool where he showed the serial port and supplied some code that could easily be adjusted to insert the password), they both did it for free. The Wiinja Team didn't spend much time on it, i doubt they bug tested it, they never test anything.

[The_Nothing]

These chips are being rushed out, which is fine I guess because it will give others ideas and such.

But lets face it, a chip that cannot be upgradeable in this day in age with firmware updates and such is useless.

Nintendo is not stupid they will get their hands on one of these chips and will find out a way to render it useless with an update.

So no upgrade option equals useless chip is you ask me. This is not 10 years ago.

I'm going to wait for better chips with more options like flash updates.

[jerrykun]

Personally, all I really want is to be able to play imports. Everything else is just a bonus. So, I guess I'll be waiting for a Freeloader/AR solution for imports... and hopefully an AR exploit with, say, "WiiOS".

EDIT: Actually, come to think of it, unless you're Sony, upgradable firmware pretty much makes an AR exploit useless as well. Hmm... guess I'll be waiting for a chip that does imports and homebrew, then.

[msaraiva]

Well, I think it's time for me to find a Wii. Then I'll wait a few weeks AFTER the release of both chips & see. Is it really a dream to think the Qoob Mod chips can be reflashed to work in a Wii? I have two, a Qoob SX & a Qoob Pro. I'd rather pull one of those out, re-flash and stick it in a Wii. I guess only time will tell if someone can rip the code from both those chips.

I honestly, don't want to spend more than $30 (after shipping) for a chip that isn't flash upgradable.
ejx982

These are IPL replacement chips. They won't work on wii. All current solutions are drivechips.

[BloodShed]

Since this is just a disc drive hack, is there some reason that the drive firmware can't be patched directly (without a chip)? ...oh yeah, because then these guys couldn't cash in on all the hard work by tmbinc.

These drive firmware hacks are lame. Backups are always a pain to create and get working because the image has to be exact. Wake me up when there is a BIOS patching chip that is upgradeable.

Yeah Team Viper, give us another overpiced chip with no support after you have cashed in!

I would't spend another dime on them......
THANK YOU! Exactly what I was going to say. Not to mention the "Viper Team" is the "DMS Team" (and the "Cobra Team"). They not only abandoned their Viper customers, they abandoned their DMS3/4 customers too. Took the money and ran.

[Virus-D]

:mad: Jesus... what's wrong with some of you people?
All you know how to do best is ***** about how things aren't perfect. This is not your Utopia. It's just a simple first generation mod chip. Whether or not it’s upgradeable doesn't matter at this point. Save that bitching for second or third generation modding. As of right now, it can play Wii backups. Be happy. It can also play GC backups. For something that came into play this damn early in the year just over 2 months of the release date of the Wii itself, that's awesome!
Many of you need to get a life and stop bickering about which came first Ninja vs. Cyclo. No one cares. Be happy that something is available or at the very least... starting... and shut the fcuk up.:mad:

[wire154]

i've found this "Wii_BootLoadeR_Beta_0.12.rar" it's a pw protected archiv includes this: WBLDVDR.BIN;WBLDVDR.TIF;SCRIPT1.SVG . Maybe fake but it can be the secret of the modchip. Nothing more then a drive firmware hack or bootloader.

Sorry this is the tubevideo fake

[msaraiva]

:mad: Jesus... what's wrong with some of you people?
All you know how to do best is ***** about how things aren't perfect. This is not your Utopia. It's just a simple first generation mod chip. Whether or not it’s upgradeable doesn't matter at this point. Save that bitching for second or third generation modding. As of right now, it can play Wii backups. Be happy. It can also play GC backups. For something that came into play this damn early in the year just over 2 months of the release date of the Wii itself, that's awesome!
Many of you need to get a life and stop bickering about which came first Ninja vs. Cyclo. No one cares. Be happy that something is available or at the very least... starting... and shut the fcuk up.:mad:

at least someone here that realizes that the main reason for a modchip is to run backups of your games!

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

i've found this "Wii_BootLoadeR_Beta_0.12.rar" it's a pw protected archiv includes this: WBLDVDR.BIN;WBLDVDR.TIF;SCRIPT1.SVG . Maybe fake but it can be the secret of the modchip. Nothing more then a drive firmware hack or bootloader.


that stuff is fake

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

:mad: Jesus... what's wrong with some of you people?
All you know how to do best is ***** about how things aren't perfect. This is not your Utopia. It's just a simple first generation mod chip. Whether or not it’s upgradeable doesn't matter at this point. Save that bitching for second or third generation modding. As of right now, it can play Wii backups. Be happy. It can also play GC backups. For something that came into play this damn early in the year just over 2 months of the release date of the Wii itself, that's awesome!
Many of you need to get a life and stop bickering about which came first Ninja vs. Cyclo. No one cares. Be happy that something is available or at the very least... starting... and shut the fcuk up.:mad:



right on thats what im saying i bet the nja modchip is about the same thing but that its in a simple little chip this one has a board big woop you still need to swap for gc imports and im 100% sure it wont play wii imports.

[BloodShed]

:mad: Jesus... what's wrong with some of you people?
All you know how to do best is ***** about how things aren't perfect. This is not your Utopia. It's just a simple first generation mod chip. Whether or not it’s upgradeable doesn't matter at this point. Save that bitching for second or third generation modding. As of right now, it can play Wii backups.
The reason people are complaining is for several reasons:
1. If the chip is not upgradeable, the investment of time and money on these chips is USELESS. Great, it will work for a few weeks or months. Are you seriously suggesting that is worth $45 USD (Wiinja is priced at 35 Euro)? You go ahead and buy these chips.
2. The work was primarily done by people like tmbinc for FREE.
3. It's just a drive hack so even backup support is limited.

I agree that it makes no difference who is first. They didn’t do the initial work for this anyway.

I also agree that it is good to see something on the market. It's a start. However, for me, this is a waste of time. I'll continue to wait. Unless the public make that opinion known, there won't be motivation for chip manufacturers to make something better.

[Virus-D]

Looking toward the future (next generation moddification (hopefully)), I would love to see the ability to play DVD movies (region 1 is fine) and VC emulation. That's my dream.

[peppers]

its not any more real that the outher if you want to add the equiviallint of the stealth mode this one provides to the wiinja its as simple at adding a switch to the Vcc maxconsole are jackasses for calling essentually the same thing "the first real" or in outher words "the one we can make money off"

[msaraiva]

These drive firmware hacks are lame. Backups are always a pain to create and get working because the image has to be exact. Wake me up when there is a BIOS patching chip that is upgradeable.


Backups a pain to create? Image has to be exact? WTF are you smoking man?

[Virus-D]

The reason people are complaining is for several reasons:
1. If the chip is not upgradeable, the investment of time and money on these chips is USELESS. Great, it will work for a few weeks or months. Are you seriously suggesting that is worth $45 USD (Wiinja is priced at 35 Euro)? You go ahead and buy these chips.
2. The work was primarily done by people like tmbinc for FREE.
3. It's just a drive hack so even backup support is limited.

I agree that it makes no difference who is first. They didn’t do the initial work for this anyway.

I also agree that it is good to see something on the market. It's a start. However, for me, this is a waste of time. I'll continue to wait. Unless the public make that opinion known, there won't be motivation for chip manufacturers to make something better.

I do understand that concept but in the end... people know that this is first gen. You pay for what you get at the TIME you get it. If you don't think it's worth it, then you have to wait for something better to come out. Until then, there will be plenty of people that are willing to pay for new tech even if it is primitive as compared to what someone can dream of.

[ejx982]

These are IPL replacement chips. They won't work on wii. All current solutions are drivechips.

Thanks for the info. I'm a bit bummed, but I guess I'll have to stick to my plan of "wait & see". I guess if I do a wire install, it would be easier to remove the chip than a no wire install.

ejx982

[anarchiest]

one good thing about a wire install is new chips (assuming they work off the same serial injection premise) will use the same solder points for the core function of the chip. So soldering these points is not a wast even if this generation of mod chip becomes obsolete

[ejx982]

Since this is just a disc drive hack, is there some reason that the drive firmware can't be patched directly (without a chip)? ...oh yeah, because then these guys couldn't cash in on all the hard work by tmbinc.

These drive firmware hacks are lame. Backups are always a pain to create and get working because the image has to be exact. Wake me up when there is a BIOS patching chip that is upgradeable.

THANK YOU! Exactly what I was going to say. Not to mention the "Viper Team" is the "DMS Team" (and the "Cobra Team"). They not only abandoned their Viper customers, they abandoned their DMS3/4 customers too. Took the money and ran.

Regarding firmware hacks, for the 360 that's all we have. Backups *are* a pain, but what else are we gonna do? The net has pre-patched, ready to go backups, which is an option for those with trouble making them, but sucks unless you have broadband, and I'm not really sure for the legality downloading a image of something you already own.

Regarding abandonment this applies to all companies. Look how slow companies are to update drivers for Windows Vista, and back in the day for Win95, 98, XP. Companies don't want to invest more money in products they have already made their money on. With devices such as modchips & backup units it's even worse. The CD64/Z64/V64 were just like that, once N64 was on the down swing, they just wanted to sell what ever units they had, but the hell with further support. It's the chance you take. Granted, the bad support I had with my DMS3, is the reason why I went with Qoob with my GC.

Eitherway, you gotta take what you get. I would very much more appreciate a direct connection for my wii to my PC so I can do a fw flash directly, even if I had to buy a fancy USB to Wii cable, but then again, there is no profit in it.

ejx982

[elmuhfuh]

that's why there is the stealth mode for no?...
he said useless chip not useless wii. stealth mode is more than likely so it wont be detected. stealth mode wont stop an update from rendering it useless.

[kappasig221]

The problem is that everyone is expecting Xbox quality modchips on nextgen systems in the 1st generation. Be glad you can actually play backups etc. with these modchips and if you want to run homebrew go get an Xbox 1.
:cool:

[New Age GCS]

That board looks like its got a SX28 on there. Same chip used in all the magic chip clones for the PS2. Most likley the code will be ripped from this chip and the Hex availble very soon. Hell with a little work and a Fluffy programmer you may be able to convert a PS2 Magic chip clone to work as a chip for the Wii.

[flagon]

I am not sure why everyone is wanting this CHiP to be upgradeable...

If it works now, just dont plug in your wii to the internet. Theres other ways to get the weather in your area. And play your emulator games on a cheapo xbox, you dont need to download them from nintendo...

If nintendo had a decent multiplayer system, this might be an issue, but for now their multiplayer stuff sucks and plugging into the internet doesnt gain you anything. Dont take the updates and be happy with your first gen CHiP.

[BloodShed]

Backups a pain to create? Image has to be exact? WTF are you smoking man?
What is your basis of comparison? This is a DISC DRIVE firmware hack. 360 backups are a monstrous pain.

You either never dealt with making a working 360 backup or you strictly download a bunch of crap online where someone has already taken care of the extra BS already. Either way, you don't know what you're talking about.

Regarding firmware hacks, for the 360 that's all we have. Backups *are* a pain, but what else are we gonna do?
Agreed. The big difference is, I paid $0 for modifying my 360 firmware, not $45. It's not worth the price, IMO.

Regarding abandonment this applies to all companies. Look how slow companies are to update drivers for Windows Vista, and back in the day for Win95, 98, XP.
I'm not talking about a recent abandonment of "old" DMS and Viper hardware customers. I would expect companies to eventually stop supporting old products.

The team abandoned their customers a very long time ago while products were still selling. This was before the Wii, PS3 and even the 360 was released. Personally, I had purchased a DMS4 Pro from Divineo. I was moving at the time and it was about 2 months before I got around to installing it. It turned out to be bad. Divineo stopped selling modchips from their US branch and insisted that they could not replace it. DMS was completely ignoring customers (and their forums). I was screwed paying for a bad chip.

Note that I had purchased 2 DMS3 chips, the bad DMS4, and a ViperGC from these people. This added up to quite a bit of profit they were making. Check out their forums sometime and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Z80]

All of these chips should cost no more than the GameCube drivechips they are based on. Almost all the R&D was done during the GameCube lifetime and the rest by people like tmbinc. That 35 Euroes or whatever for Wiinja is way overpriced. 20$USD is the most that's worth really.

And both of these chips do the exact same thing. We don't know how well they do these things but either way you're best off not buying either right off the bat if you aren't a risk taker. If you are though, what's the harm in trying one out if you have the cash to spend? Either chip could be removed later on, perhaps replaced with a better chip. If not you could sell your system premodded and buy a new system and mod that.

Anyway, thus far no one has come along to offer a reasonably priced Wii drivecode chip. The Wiinja is so low tech (looking like a PSX modchip) and they want to charge you I think 45$USD last I checked the exchange rate. And this chip is obviously more complexly built and won't likely be any cheaper, though if it is it wouldn't be significant. Maybe those people who made XenoGC will make a Wii model and price it reasonably.

[tpepsiman]

cool a chip allreddy so when do we get to buy it
anyone no

[Colmino]

No imports, no purchase.

Btw, we bit** because it gets the missing features added quicker.

[wiggim]

I'll be ordering a few of these.. still hope that the wiinja is dumped so I can make one of those (or several)

This is firmware upgradeable I presume?

[avalon]

I'm not talking about a recent abandonment of "old" DMS and Viper hardware customers. I would expect companies to eventually stop supporting old products.I have no idea about DMS, but regarding Viper, this is in fact the only chip that is STILL supported. They released different versions of Cobra in 2006, and one in 2007 (2.1 official), each time with a lot of changes and improvement. Last update for another GC chip was in 2005 with Qoob 1.3c.

But I think we'll have to wait a lot for something like a Viper on Wii, as the IPL can not be replaced.

[wiggim]

All of these chips should cost no more than the GameCube drivechips they are based on. Almost all the R&D was done during the GameCube lifetime and the rest by people like tmbinc. That 35 Euroes or whatever for Wiinja is way overpriced. 20$USD is the most that's worth really.

And both of these chips do the exact same thing. We don't know how well they do these things but either way you're best off not buying either right off the bat if you aren't a risk taker. If you are though, what's the harm in trying one out if you have the cash to spend? Either chip could be removed later on, perhaps replaced with a better chip. If not you could sell your system premodded and buy a new system and mod that.

Anyway, thus far no one has come along to offer a reasonably priced Wii drivecode chip. The Wiinja is so low tech (looking like a PSX modchip) and they want to charge you I think 45$USD last I checked the exchange rate. And this chip is obviously more complexly built and won't likely be any cheaper, though if it is it wouldn't be significant. Maybe those people who made XenoGC will make a Wii model and price it reasonably.

XenoGC and XenoPS are just clone chips (DuoQ and Matrix 1.82, respectively), so IF they create one it will be based off the dumps of this and/or the wiinja. All Xeno stuff is cloned.. they even cloned the 360 Xecuter connectivity kit.

[peppers]

I'll be ordering a few of these.. still hope that the wiinja is dumped so I can make one of those (or several)

This is firmware upgradeable I presume?

you presume wrong

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

I wonder how itll fit into the wii with no soldiering required. maybe it jus clips onto the mother board. Anyway, good work! Hope its out soon at a good price.
Brutal!


you do have to solder just not wires. you should read more.

[msaraiva]

What is your basis of comparison? This is a DISC DRIVE firmware hack. 360 backups are a monstrous pain.

You either never dealt with making a working 360 backup or you strictly download a bunch of crap online where someone has already taken care of the extra BS already. Either way, you don't know what you're talking about.


Yes i do know what i'm talking about. It's not a drive firmware hack in the same sense as the 360. It's just like XenoGC or DuoGC and neither required monstrous pain. That's my basis for comparison. You don't know **** about the Wii. If you knew, you'd know that it's drive is SIMILAR to GC's one, that's why they were* able to develop these new modchips so quickly. Don't compare it to the xbox360. Wii (or gc) backups are not a monstrous pain.

* thanks to tmbinc

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

I am not sure why everyone is wanting this CHiP to be upgradeable...

If it works now, just dont plug in your wii to the internet. Theres other ways to get the weather in your area. And play your emulator games on a cheapo xbox, you dont need to download them from nintendo...

If nintendo had a decent multiplayer system, this might be an issue, but for now their multiplayer stuff sucks and plugging into the internet doesnt gain you anything. Dont take the updates and be happy with your first gen CHiP.



dude its a drive had theres no way to detect it dont you think microsoft would of done that already?

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

No imports, no purchase.

Btw, we bit** because it gets the missing features added quicker.


good luck finding a chip that would let you play imported wii games. it will never happen.

[msaraiva]

good luck finding a chip that would let you play imported wii games. it will never happen.

Agreed with you until you said never. Don't understimate people with knowledge and time...sooner or later, it'll happen.

[krawhitham]

It seems that Wiinja is already outdated even before its release.

Yeah but I can not make one of these for 50 cents

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

That board looks like its got a SX28 on there. Same chip used in all the magic chip clones for the PS2. Most likley the code will be ripped from this chip and the Hex availble very soon. Hell with a little work and a Fluffy programmer you may be able to convert a PS2 Magic chip clone to work as a chip for the Wii.

i have a old magic chip i dont use. i wouldent mind makeing it into a wii chip. recycle and reuse nice. :cool:

[Slowking]

XenoGC and XenoPS are just clone chips (DuoQ and Matrix 1.82, respectively), so IF they create one it will be based off the dumps of this and/or the wiinja. All Xeno stuff is cloned.. they even cloned the 360 Xecuter connectivity kit.
Wrooong. XenoGC was first and DuoQ is the ripoff.

[msaraiva]

It's funny how they keep this news above all others. They didn't do that with wiinja. How much are they paying maxconsole for this AD?

Shame on you, Zeus...

[Perkele]

XenoGC and XenoPS are just clone chips (DuoQ and Matrix 1.82, respectively), so IF they create one it will be based off the dumps of this and/or the wiinja. All Xeno stuff is cloned.. they even cloned the 360 Xecuter connectivity kit.
Duo-Q used the code from the XenoGC, not the other way round, that's why the Duo-Q hangs when you press start while booting, otherwise you'd see the XenoGC logo. And the Xeno Team is not behind the Xeno 360 Connectivity Kit.

[krawhitham]

Since this is just a disc drive hack, is there some reason that the drive firmware can't be patched directly (without a chip)? ...oh yeah, because then these guys couldn't cash in on all the hard work by tmbinc.


no way to hook up to PC to flash maybe

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

It's funny how they keep this news above all others. They didn't do that with wiinja. How much are they paying maxconsole for this AD?

Shame on you, Zeus...



ditto i totaly agree with you. and this isint "the first real modchip" a modchip is a chip to modify something hence modchip the wiinja does mod the system to play backups soo why again is it the first real modchip?

[xllzerollx]

ditto i totaly agree with you. and this isint "the first real modchip" a modchip is a chip to modify something hence modchip the wiinja does mod the system to play backups soo why again is it the first real modchip?
maybe because zeus want to say it>?
Maxconsole is becoming a joke with all this crap they put on front page, no moderators,(at least none that works)...:confused:

[soussi]

there is a new pink chip... saw it in a new thread... wtf it's really happening it's raining chips... :eek:

[krawhitham]

both not upgradeable

if it is a drive mod I do not see how it has and audio fix built in

Wiinja will be easier to "upgrade", just install using a socket and flash a new pic chip, while CycloWiz will be a ***** to desolder.

[letsmod]

a mod is a mod, either you buy it or don't plain and simple, stop griping and release the mods already.

Better off tell us how they are to be burned!!

[re4de2ye0]

I will take this for what it is at the moment, a step in the right direction. With the Wii containing similar architecture to the Gamecube I knew it would be a matter of time, we all want homebrew but just give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Oh and to the guy that said making 360 backups is a monstrous pain, get yourself a Samsung SH-D162C flash it with Kreon's firmware and thank me later. What pains me is when people take being able to play backups for granted, you honestly can't tell me that PS3s would be flying off the shelf if you could run backups?

[Cyclone57]

Neat.

-Message extender-

[xllzerollx]

Oh and to the guy that said making 360 backups is a monstrous pain, get yourself a Samsung SH-D162C flash it with Kreon's firmware and thank me later. What pains me is when people take being able to play backups for granted, you honestly can't tell me that PS3s would be flying off the shelf if you could run backups?
1. you right about 360 backups, what...1min of work and the rest is done by the pc
2. you are right about ps3, i would buy one the same day if knew i could run backups

[Kazuya]

Amazing that the Wii has been cracked so quickly!

I think I will wait before getting a mod as more are bound to come out which are better and hopefully flash upgradeable via USB like the Qoob Pro on GC.

[SLAYERPSP]

good news my local modder said by the end of the week should have my wii chiped sweet :) :)

[peppers]

ditto i totaly agree with you. and this isint "the first real modchip" a modchip is a chip to modify something hence modchip the wiinja does mod the system to play backups soo why again is it the first real modchip?


yeh he always must have his head up the ass of the sponsers sence this is almost the same thing as the winja and there is still no way of knowing witch one actually works best in wii mode but sence this is probubley a clone of the winja with one small software change they are probubley the same

[MR_COW]

I see that it has more features, but I don't see that it is able to be updated.
without that, if the big N decides to roll out an update, or include one in future games, you would have a useless chip in your Wii.

Just like how 1.5 PSP's can't play games that are 1.5+.

I'm sure someone will crack some **** and it will be over.

[BloodShed]

I have no idea about DMS, but regarding Viper, this is in fact the only chip that is STILL supported. They released different versions of Cobra in 2006, and one in 2007 (2.1 official), each time with a lot of changes and improvement. Last update for another GC chip was in 2005 with Qoob 1.3c.

I really can't say I've paid attention to the Qoob scene. You are right that "Team Viper" (a.k.a. Metalcube, etc, etc) did finally show their faces again for that v2.1 release. I nearly forgotten about it. Regardless, their customer interaction needs serious work. Obviously I wasn't the only one that felt they abandoned their customers prematurely.

Yes i do know what i'm talking about. It's not a drive firmware hack in the same sense as the 360. It's just like XenoGC or DuoGC and neither required monstrous pain. That's my basis for comparison. You don't know **** about the Wii. If you knew, you'd know that it's drive is SIMILAR to GC's one, that's why they were* able to develop these new modchips so quickly. Don't compare it to the xbox360. Wii (or gc) backups are not a monstrous pain.
No, you're wrong. The only thing this mod chip does is report that the disc is authenticated (i.e. "pressed" media). It uses the so-called "Backdoor 2". It is exactly like the 360 DVD firmware hack and nothing at all like GC modchips. The method used in GC modchips applied to a Wii does not allow Wii backups. Your basis is off. Watch all of tmbinc's presentation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTx2MAOspS4&eurl=).

[mtamimi]

where is dextrose????

[xllzerollx]

http://www.wiinjanorthamerica.com/

$61USD FvCK YOU AND YOUR CRAP
wtf this is the price i payd for my dms4 se pro
you can stick you wiinja up your ass.



i just read some of that page and look at the errors on the "OFFICIAL" page :

A2: TESTED MEDIAS :
TDK DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
XTRA DVD-R -> 8x -- PERFECT
IMATION DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
VERBATIM DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
VERBATIM DVD+R --> 4x -- PERFECT (Burn it like
EMTEC DVD-R -->> 4x -- ERRORS
PLEOMAX DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT

what the hell is this??

[peppers]

http://www.wiinjanorthamerica.com/

$61USD FvCK YOU AND YOUR CRAP
wtf this is the price i payd for my dms4 se pro
you can stick you wiinja up your ass.



i just read some of that page and look at the errors on the "OFFICIAL" page

A2: TESTED MEDIAS :
TDK DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
XTRA DVD-R -> 8x -- PERFECT
IMATION DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
VERBATIM DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT
VERBATIM DVD+R --> 4x -- PERFECT (Burn it like
EMTEC DVD-R -->> 4x -- ERRORS
PLEOMAX DVD-R --> 16x -- PERFECT

what the hell is this??
those are blank dvd brands and its slightley less money on all outher sites

[xllzerollx]

those are blank dvd brands and its slightley less money on all outher sites
i know what they are, the reason i posted them is so you can see the errors they made, which shouldnt be there on the official page

[handles26]

What would you "back up" and play on a PS3? No one bothers to play shitty games pirated or not. Even if you could mod them I wouldnt buy one.

[halomasta203]

Great news! I can't wait to see the price and of course the review.:D

[gboshort]

nm.........

[11111]

honestly can't tell me that PS3s would be flying off the shelf if you could run backups?

are you serious?

What would you "back up" and play on a PS3? No one bothers to play shitty games pirated or not. Even if you could mod them I wouldnt buy one.

for the winnnn

[xllzerollx]

so if this patches the dvd fw, this looks like 360, and since wii dvd drive can be conected to pc, why not dump fw, patch it directly, write it back, instead of paying 61$

[Fasman]

It looks like a good old fashion SX guess this will be cloned soon,lets hope its released online soon...

[peppers]

so if this patches the dvd fw, this looks like 360, and since wii dvd drive can be conected to pc, why not dump fw, patch it directly, write it back, instead of paying 61$
the 360 used a standard dvd drive with some slight modifications mostley software like all standard dvd drives the fw can be replaced the wii's drive is designed for the wii and nothing else from what I have been told whatever stores the fw probubley a ROM can onley be programed once

btw with shipping I onley payed $58.21 USD or €43.95 EUR

[xllzerollx]

the 360 used a standard dvd drive with some slight modifications mostley software like all standard dvd drives the fw can be replaced the wii's drive is designed for the wii and nothing else from what I have been told whatever stores the fw probubley a ROM can onley be programed once
well, it can be writed to again
have been done
http://www.ps2-scene.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51982

[Gleasonator]

Conspiracy man... first couple posters were like "YESSZZ THAWSZ WUT WEEV BEWN WAAYUTING FUUPROR!!!" yet it just looks like a modchip, with all the metal curving arund.

Now define modchip... if you split it apart you have mod, short for modification, and chip. So therefore if it's a modification to your system and it's a chip it's a modchip. Wiinja and this thing are both modchips. This one's a little better, but still not perfect. It is good that it happened though, because at least we're building up. You can't say that the copied Wiinja because if that were the case then every modchip would be a copy of the last. We should expect to see a few more before they build into qoob quality modchips. Either way I don't even consider these "first generation". More like ".5 generation".

[peppers]

well, it can be writed to again
have been done
http://www.ps2-scene.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51982


perhaps I am missing something it talks about wrighting to the dirves memory but not about replaceing the fw, its not the same thing its talking about the drives ram, doing that can be used to get the same resolts but would be eraced as soon as the drive is terned off

btw: I do not know if this is the case or not but if the drive onley accesses the data on the modchip once simpley dumping the ram would perhaps give anybody with a setup like that a way to do it without the chip although I do not know how safe it would be for the wii

[xllzerollx]

perhaps I am missing something it talks about wrighting to the dirves memory but not about replaceing the fw, its not the same thing its talking about the drives ram, doing that can be used to get the same resolts but would be eraced as soon as the drive is terned off or did I miss something
o well, nothing i can say about it, just w8 for a real quality modchip that ppl could feel ok to pay 60$ for

[hhel11]

This isnt really about the chip itself, I just have something very important to say regarding this subject.

I earlier today, tried to post a new thread on the PS3News forums about this great new chip. Well, it appears that NEW information is punishable by PERMANENT BAN over there, if said NEW information hasnt already been discussed in the main news. WHAT COMPLETE FRiGGin F@GGoTS. THESE ARE NEWS FORUMS, people are supposed to add new bits of information. I just find myself completely baffled how any mod could actually BAN someone PERMANENTLY for contributing information that they didnt have (or hadnt posted quick enough). Im glad that there are forums such as MAXCoNsOLE's that arent so fCUKing outrageous.

end of rant

Im sorry but it was very important for you all to know how rediculous PS3NEWS is.

THANKS,
HHEL11

[peppers]

This isnt really about the chip itself, I just have something very important to say regarding this subject.

I earlier today, tried to post a new thread on the PS3News forums about this great new chip. Well, it appears that NEW information is punishable by PERMANENT BAN over there, if said NEW information hasnt already been discussed in the main news. WHAT COMPLETE FRiGGin F@GGoTS. THESE ARE NEWS FORUMS, people are supposed to add new bits of information. I just find myself completely baffled how any mod could actually BAN someone PERMANENTLY for contributing information that they didnt have (or hadnt posted quick enough). Im glad that there are forums such as MAXCoNsOLE's that arent so fCUKing outrageous.

end of rant

Im sorry but it was very important for you all to know how rediculous PS3NEWS is.

THANKS,
HHEL11

were have you that site manipulates things for there own money makeing ajenda part of that involves consealing infomation tis site dose that also but they are way more laxed about it so its cool

[xllzerollx]

This isnt really about the chip itself, I just have something very important to say regarding this subject.

I earlier today, tried to post a new thread on the PS3News forums about this great new chip. Well, it appears that NEW information is punishable by PERMANENT BAN over there, if said NEW information hasnt already been discussed in the main news. WHAT COMPLETE FRiGGin F@GGoTS. THESE ARE NEWS FORUMS, people are supposed to add new bits of information. I just find myself completely baffled how any mod could actually BAN someone PERMANENTLY for contributing information that they didnt have (or hadnt posted quick enough). Im glad that there are forums such as MAXCoNsOLE's that arent so fCUKing outrageous.

end of rant

Im sorry but it was very important for you all to know how rediculous PS3NEWS is.

THANKS,
HHEL11
dude, i got baned from it because:
i needed help with ps2, posted my problem, a mod insulted me because i didnt write enough details, then i just sayd, "great attitude mods have in here"
and they edited my whole post so they didnt look bad

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

yeah this is a coold site but i guess money talks i wonder how much they pay i have alot of things i can do my self but im just too lazy

[emu_kidid]

GC mode should be region free with the use of this tool even on this modchip. See here:
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=46517

[Brandogg]

PS3news is the same site as ps2nfo, or ps2ownz back in the day. **** them. I got banned several years ago, simply for being a member of this forum. No big loss, since that site sucks **** anyway. They actually think people will pay money to get unbanned. What a bunch of faggots.

Back to the subject - who cares if it's not upgradeable. It's a first-gen-within-2-months-of-the-consoles-launch modchip. It's worth it for theGamecube homebrew alone.

[ASSPOP]

I checked ps3 news and they posted your ip address on there also. what assholes. :mad:

They're stupid, its like they have something up there ass and twisted sideways. 24/7

[Sonic-Iso]

umn this is nothing like the wiinja people need to learn engineering before tey run their mouths... this is a IPL replacement chip.

[BloodShed]

Im sorry but it was very important for you all to know how rediculous PS3NEWS is.
WTF? That shitty site is still around? ...and now they are "PS3News"?? Bwahaha. Do NOT visit that site. The last thing that asshole needs is more traffic to sell advertisment space. There's plenty of people running anti-PS2ownz/PS2nfo/PS3news sites that will explain what a piece of **** site that is.

I will admit, I did check the site just to see if it was the same assholes. They even stole MaxConsole graphics for the news posts. Damn, I hate that site.

[ASSPOP]

I want this chip right now. :(

[BlueCop]

umn this is nothing like the wiinja people need to learn engineering before tey run their mouths... this is a IPL replacement chip.
i call bullshit on that. if this was an ipl replacement it would be region free for one. second why would an ipl replacement attached to the dvd-rom serial port???? because its not an ipl replacemnt how about you learn some engineering

[peppers]

now we need a flash loader of some sort and more importantley a way to run unsigned code in wii mode

[bobino24]

I never tried the freeloader disc but wouldn't it do the trick to be able to play wii and gc backups from other region?

[Ubertraka]

I just had a look at the website for buying the wiinja, and there is a link to the cyclowiz. Why would they provide this link if they were not somehow in league with each other? Does this seem kinda odd to anyone else?

http://wiinjanorthamerica.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=3

[BlueCop]

I just had a look at the website for buying the wiinja, and there is a link to the cyclowiz. Why would they provide this link if they were not somehow in league with each other? Does this seem kinda odd to anyone else?

http://wiinjanorthamerica.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=3
because that is just a reseller of a product. its like wal mart selling all three consoles. they don't make them but they still sell competing products
www.WiinjaNorthAmerica.com and www.CycloWiz.com are the same person

[ASSPOP]

I dont know i think i will wait until foundmy has it in stock, i just dont trust this site.

[The_Nothing]

$61.00 dollars for wiininja!!!

Are you kidding me!

Give me a break, I don't give a crap if that is the first modchip. That price is ridicules.

I would never pay that much, even if it were upgradeable.

[jaapie18]

sorry but what does this mean

Play GC Imports (swap needed)

[woo]

The title stinks of Maxconsole's love for (or ownership by??) all things Divineo.

Many times we're buying modchips, etc.. from these new teams that pop up, but it's always the same players. The same people fronting the cash. Sometimes the people involved are even related to each other.

I'm not normally one to speak out about an affiliation, or whatever you want to call it, but this story is just another example of where a conflict of interest is misleading the general public. Still, it hasn't gotten as bad as ps2ownz/ps3news - yet!

For my money, unless you're prepared to wait for something cheaper, $60 or an as yet unknown pricepoint for the Divineo *cough* "Team Cyclops" mod isn't that much in respect that most of you will be using it as a tool for piracy. It's hard to take anyone seriously who cries foul in those circumstances.

[Wober]

For those who want to have audiofix on Wiinja...
Have you forgot this utility?

[Xenogears V]

Wow, great news, before Ps3 modchip!.

[ketsurui]

For those of you that are worried about Nintendo firmware updates:

Take a closer look at the description of the Wiinja (and I'm sure it's the same case for the Cyclowiz)....
This is not a standard modchip. It is a drive mod. It tells the disc drive not to look for security. Regardless of the Wii's firmware, or whether or not Nintendo releases new firmware, the mod is going to tell the drive to bypass the security. They can't change the way the Wii checks for security without changing the hardware itself. And at that point, they'd have to change the game discs themselves too. And seeing as how it's already been proven that you can swap from a real disc to a backup midgame with no problems, that means that the chip is only used on initial startup of the game, which means the rest of the time, it's not visible to the system. So unless they come up with a way to monitor hardware usage and report back to the server, you're not going to get banned either. But hey, we'll see. Hope this isn't too confusing and clarifies it a bit.

[msa]

For those of you that are worried about Nintendo firmware updates:

Take a closer look at the description of the Wiinja (and I'm sure it's the same case for the Cyclowiz)....
This is not a standard modchip. It is a drive mod. It tells the disc drive not to look for security. Regardless of the Wii's firmware, or whether or not Nintendo releases new firmware, the mod is going to tell the drive to bypass the security. They can't change the way the Wii checks for security without changing the hardware itself. And at that point, they'd have to change the game discs themselves too. And seeing as how it's already been proven that you can swap from a real disc to a backup midgame with no problems, that means that the chip is only used on initial startup of the game, which means the rest of the time, it's not visible to the system. So unless they come up with a way to monitor hardware usage and report back to the server, you're not going to get banned either. But hey, we'll see. Hope this isn't too confusing and clarifies it a bit.
i guess you're right.... but.... if nintendo changes the disc, or the security check, the chip wont work with these new games, right?
at least thats what i am thinking and whats making me NOT buy this one, but waiting for an upgradeable one...

[ds_barf]

i guess you're right.... but.... if nintendo changes the disc, or the security check, the chip wont work with these new games, right?
at least thats what i am thinking and whats making me NOT buy this one, but waiting for an upgradeable one...

well if nintendo would change the discs/security check, that would mean that all of us current wii owners wouldn't be able to play them so i hope they won't do that :P

[avalon]

For those who want to have audiofix on Wiinja...
Have you forgot this utility?No we didn't forget about this utility, but we really hope it's not needed! This utility patches the ISO, and then the sound is better but there is a lot of distortion. I remember, I had to use it on first versions of Cobra.

[Cobra.uK]

i guess you're right.... but.... if nintendo changes the disc, or the security check, the chip wont work with these new games, right?
at least thats what i am thinking and whats making me NOT buy this one, but waiting for an upgradeable one...

They can change the discs but not the security check if I'm thinking about it rightm like ketsurui said to chang the security check they'll have to release new hardware, I think this applies to what ketsurui explained, if not ignore me. :)

[Merle]

So anyway Nintendo can't block the cyclowizz?

[Z80]

So anyway Nintendo can't block the cyclowizz?

They can always modify the PCB layout on newer hardware models. But for existing systems, these first mods will probably work for the duration of the console's life. But someone like tmbinc would have a better idea if via software you could detect the use of such a chip. It may or may not be possible, but considering we went the entire lifespan of the GC using devices that hacked the drive (either via IPL or a late gen modchip) it may be they can't detect it.

[ejx982]

There will always be a way for Nintendo to block it. I mean come on, they do spend millions of dollars to put in protection, and yes a few brilliant talent are able to circumvent it, but they have much more resources to break that circumvention. There were a few Modchip detection games for PS1, and PS2 I believe. Companies always throw something out there, but it doesn't always stick. XBOX had the media check 1 & 2 in place, although both of those were easily circumvented by patching a ISO, it's much easier to just reflash the BIOS of the mochip and be done w/ it.

In all honesty, if you look at the past of modchip, most of us end up upgrading from first generation. Can anyone remember the enigmah or xecutor1 chips? Both had a few issues, and it was much nice to just upgrade the BIOS. My vote is to wait, $60 isn't worth it out the door, who knows if there are media issues with sound streaming w/ Wii games, or other 'defects'. By the time the dust clears, I bet there will be similar announcements to other modchips that either build from the known work and support more features.

my 2 cents (again)

ejx982

[efix]

which is better chips for wii mod?

wiinja or cyclowiz?

[peppers]

noone will know till they are out

[brpn]

still no pictures or review yet? cant take that long

[peppers]

If its actually real and I can get install information you can feel free to sent it to me and I will give it a fair review, witch I will have someone proof read/correct before I submit it so it would be professional

[Cobra.uK]

Yea well Wiinja was only put on sale today (not pre-order, actual sale) and nowhere by the looks of it has Cyclowizz yet. :)

[ketsurui]

i guess you're right.... but.... if nintendo changes the disc, or the security check, the chip wont work with these new games, right?
at least thats what i am thinking and whats making me NOT buy this one, but waiting for an upgradeable one...

That would probably be the case, but at the same time, IF they changed the security check, the games that they already put out would probably have problems being checked.
I look at it this way. This is pretty much what went down with the 360. They have a drivemod on it. And it still works. And if anyone could have figured out how to block a simple drivemod from working, it would be micro$oft. I think we'll be okay with these mods.
What I would like to see, however, is a modchip that would allow booting from USB hard drive with an advanced media center setup and image boots and NDS remote control support. It's probably just a matter of time before we start seeing more advanced chips, but for practicality, what's already available is really all we need. :)

[narutoramen]

i apologize if this was already answered but i have a couple of questions 'bout modding in general:

1) there's talk about an audiofix. what does that refer to? there's an audio problem with some games?

2) even if the chips work. currently, there's no fast/easy way to rip the wii games, right? if i remember correctly, one thread said it took around 50 hours or something to rip a game.

thanx

[peppers]

i apologize if this was already answered but i have a couple of questions 'bout modding in general:

1) there's talk about an audiofix. what does that refer to? there's an audio problem with some games?

2) even if the chips work. currently, there's no fast/easy way to rip the wii games, right? if i remember correctly, one thread said it took around 50 hours or something to rip a game.

thanx
there are a small amount of gamecude games that have audio problems it the audiofix fixes that

that true its no longer 50 hours but yes the prosess is a bit complex

[Slowking]

1. I really don't think, that audio will be a problem. Afaik Audio was a problem due to the costum bios' the first cube-chips worked with. That shouldn't be a problem if you just tell the drive, that it has a vailid game disc inside and the original Bios plays a 1:1 copy.

2. If you can access 12cm discs in gamecube mode (and it seems, that this is the case) there will be a ripper that rips to SD-Card in no time. (ofcourse you will need a 8GB card...)

[Whitewiz]

1. I really don't think, that audio will be a problem. Afaik Audio was a problem due to the costum bios' the first cube-chips worked with. That shouldn't be a problem if you just tell the drive, that it has a vailid game disc inside and the original Bios plays a 1:1 copy.

2. If you can access 12cm discs in gamecube mode (and it seems, that this is the case) there will be a ripper that rips to SD-Card in no time. (ofcourse you will need a 8GB card...)

That would be nice. But seriusly. I think it would be able to split the data into smaller files. Like some PSP-dumpers.

[Inferno]

I am pretty sure that the Wii only supports up to 2GB SD cards... total bummer

[peppers]

That would be nice. But seriusly. I think it would be able to split the data into smaller files. Like some PSP-dumpers.


You seem to be forgetting SD in gamecube mode is read only and the wii’s functions cannot be accessed

[Slowking]

I forgot about that read-only-thing. Maybe someone can crack this. I mean if you can write t a memory card in GC-mode you should be able to write on a SD-card as well.
If not there is no way to transfare the read to anything, damn.

[amptor]

lol isn't it one of those $1.50 chips like the original PSX mod chips? ;) looks cheap. I'd rather get this one and I like how this one just solders right to the board like an xecuter 1.6 bridge.

$61.00 dollars for wiininja!!!

Are you kidding me!

Give me a break, I don't give a crap if that is the first modchip. That price is ridicules.

I would never pay that much, even if it were upgradeable.

[Gleasonator]

I am pretty sure that the Wii only supports up to 2GB SD cards... total bummer

You're right, but apparently 4 GB cards have some support (people have problems with them... I dunno). Up to 8 GB, MAYBE, but doubtful.

[msaraiva]

umn this is nothing like the wiinja people need to learn engineering before tey run their mouths... this is a IPL replacement chip.

Where's the source to backup your claim? Btw, who developed the BIOS?

[peppers]

am I the onley one that suspects that this is not real and intends to be a clone of the winja when they dump it there are reasons to suspect this

the onley info is a picture of a chip with the maxconsole logo on it they apperintley have one and yet they dont say anything about installing one and the rest you can put together yourself

I CALL VAPORWARE its a fairley a no duh the facts simpley dont add up

[Gleasonator]

am I the onley one that suspects that this is not real and intends to be a clone of the winja when they dump it there are reasons to suspect this

the onley info is a picture of a chip with the maxconsole logo on it they apperintley have one and yet they dont say anything about installing one and the rest you can put together yourself

I CALL VAPORWARE its a fairley a no duh the facts simpley dont add up

Uh... yeah you're pretty much the "onley" one. :p

[peppers]

I dout it as all the information points to that being the case

[Ubertraka]

Nice. About two hours ago I posted "where the f is the review?' in size 7 text :oD Funny that its been modded...

So Zeus, where is that review and installation guide eh?

EDIT: I EAT MY HAT> SORRY!!!

[Nightfox]

I've got some general questions about the future modchips for the wii. I know there are just some details available but will it also be possible to play big dvd-r GC Backups? I guess the hardware of the wii will check if it's a mini DVD or a Wii DVD. If it's not a mini DVD it shouldn't be a GC Game but this is only a suspicion of myself.
The second question is, if it is possible to backup wii games with a modchip and how. I can't believe that the discs are readable in a normal PC-Drive and there is nothing availabe like the BBA for the GC.

Would be nice if someone can answer me these questions.

[Whitewiz]

You seem to be forgetting SD in gamecube mode is read only and the wii’s functions cannot be accessed

I would like to disagree.
http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/News_Archive
Read under 5 Sep 2005: MMC/SD updates

And if you dont take that as proof enough. Even one OFFICIAL GC-game support saving files to sd-memory.
The game is the JAP version of Animal crossing, and it lets you save images to the sd-memory.

[peppers]

I would like to disagree.
http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/News_Archive
Read under 5 Sep 2005: MMC/SD updates

And if you dont take that as proof enough. Even one OFFICIAL GC-game support saving files to sd-memory.
The game is the JAP version of Animal crossing, and it lets you save images to the sd-memory.

ok my mistake

[thecheekymonkey]

Any of these modchips that rely on injecting code are all based on "some hex"

Your paying for the work and time someone did to make it happen. I have no doubt the PIC that the Wiinja uses will be reverse engineered, it takes tools though to cut the chip down and fuse it back to read the PIC data. It took over 1.5 years for someone to release FREE PIC code for the PSX 1 PIC's.

No doubt it will happen quicker, but who knows how quickly.



too true, back in the day they would have to get the chip skimmed, not an easy ting to do, but no doubt people will have the capabilities to do this, so the hex will be out soon enough.

i remember people filing legs off an allsorts to make it hard for everyday people to copy.