First Ever Wii Game Backup Mod Revealed!

[Zeus]

Team Ninja has reportedly the first ever Wii modchip up their sleeves. The 5 wire modification will play Wii and GC backups of the SAME region, and is expected to retail for around 35 euro's. As you can see from the pictures below, its a simple looking mod and should be easy to install.

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[Hooya]

Posted here already:
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=46202

[Kaos2K]

Posted here already:
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=46202

Thanks mate :)

[BulletMag]

Hmm looking at that chip brings back PS1 modchip memories...

Im betting the hex code will appear soon so we can program our own pic chips.

[taka912]

Nice, I also checked gbatemp.net and they'll be receiving samples in a couple days.

[Mr.Do!]

i wouldnt be so quick to jump on the first modchip. Being that nintendo can now do updates via the internet, it is a good possibility this chip can be rendered useless very quickly.

[Silversand]

Those solder points don't look super small. Very doable. =)

The mod chip will only work within 1 region... I guess we'll need someone to make an ISO converter for that.

[Alastair]

I...I'm stoked...
It's here... :eek:

[panyan1991]

the first 3rd gneration with real mod chip capablities (the x360 is the first, but that is old news:p )

[Tomobobo]

Those solder points don't look super small. Very doable. =)

The mod chip will only work within 1 region... I guess we'll need someone to make an ISO converter for that.

It's not one region, it's the SAME region as the Wii it's installed in. Basically it works like the FW mods for the 360. It's not really doing anything but allowing the system to run backups.

[chubsta]

wonder how easy the isos will be to burn tho - 360's can be a bit tricky (still no decent way using a Mac)...

[The_Eggman_1972]

LOL ninty must be WEEing themselves cracked so soon.

[Silversand]

It's not one region, it's the SAME region as the Wii it's installed in. Basically it works like the FW mods for the 360. It's not really doing anything but allowing the system to run backups.

There can be two regions on a single Wii? I thought that the Wii only had one region. Wow you're smart. Please posts links to this information.

Also, are you saying that converting a Wii game's ISO region isn't possible then? It was with the PSX, PS2, Saturn, Xbox....

[HotDogWater]

yea... I'd like hear more about flashable features of the chip, in case nintendo sends an update to kill it.

[evlspcmk]

my god i hope this will be good ie, not die from a fw update if thats the case its going in my wii

[Ghostfacekillah]

There can be two regions on a single Wii? I thought that the Wii only had one region. Wow you're smart. Please posts links to this information.

Also, are you saying that converting a Wii game's ISO region isn't possible then? It was with the PSX, PS2, Saturn, Xbox....

NO he said that a PAL WII will play PAL Backups then and a NTSC WII will play NTSC Backups,nothing else.

[Mendes]

Video Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYPE-qNIpNc

[Almighty_Peanut]

oh swiit!!

[Tomobobo]

There can be two regions on a single Wii? I thought that the Wii only had one region. Wow you're smart. Please posts links to this information.

Also, are you saying that converting a Wii game's ISO region isn't possible then? It was with the PSX, PS2, Saturn, Xbox....

Well, smart ass, if you'd read, I didn't claim to say the a single Wii had multiple regions. I simply was informing you that the chip did not work with "1 region" but the SAME REGION AS THE WII IT WAS INSTALLED IN.

Also, I am saing that converting a Wii game's ISO region isn't possible if you're going to be using this chip, due to the fact that changing anything on the Wii image would break the signature, and render the disc unplayable. Yes, it worked with the PSX, PS2, Saturn, but only because the bootable files weren't signed. The Xbox's executeables were signed, but were able to be booted after modification due to the fact that the chips that were out, and the hacks that were available allowed booting of UNSIGNED code.

Wow, you're a smart ass.

[brywalker]

I won't touch one until it can do GameCube backups also.

[pCeSlAyEr]

as for patching the wii to kill this mod... by the looks of the picture its another DVD drive mod... does anyone here know how much access the wii has to the DVD drive? or the drives firmware for that matter... im betting about as much as the NGC...

[sneef]

supposedly it can do gamecube backups also. which means my collection of ritek discs will not be wasted after all..

[Tomobobo]

Who knows man. It could be possible that Nintendo could release an update to kill this mod. Depends really, if Nintendo plans to let consumers that purchased the first generation of Wii's to download an update that will allow DVD-Video playback. If that's possible (dunno) then it's possible to kill this chip.

[pCeSlAyEr]

Who knows man. It could be possible that Nintendo could release an update to kill this mod. Depends really, if Nintendo plans to let consumers that purchased the first generation of Wii's to download an update that will allow DVD-Video playback. If that's possible (dunno) then it's possible to kill this chip.
the dvd video palyback is just a player... its software with codecs... I dont understand why you mention this...

[Zilluss]

yea... I'd like hear more about flashable features of the chip, in case nintendo sends an update to kill it.

After watching the Video of the Hacker Convention where there was explained how to do that hack (I was wondering why that took so long) I doubt Nintendo can do anything but bring out a new hardware Revision.

Also, I think this Mod-Chip wiill be pretty easy to "produce" at home

[the-murderer]

Very good news! :)

[Tomobobo]

Well I dunno then. I brought that up, because I figured the DVD-Rom would be the one to reject DVD-videos. I'm not super knowledgeable on DVD-fw and stuff, as you can tell.

[jshackles]

Any possibility this will allow Wii homebrew or Linux? Or is this another mod like the 360 firmware mod that will pretty much *ONLY* be useful for pirating games?

[pCeSlAyEr]

Any possibility this will allow Wii homebrew or Linux? Or is this another mod like the 360 firmware mod that will pretty much *ONLY* be useful for pirating games?
this should work for homebrew with the NGC portion of the wii... but thats limited..

[Sonic-Iso]

this hack cant be patched easily...

[Tomobobo]

This particular chip will not allow homebrew to be executed. However, DVD-FW modifications don't have the sole purpose of piracy. Backups of your games which you paid hard-earned cash for, are a definate bonus. Hell, that's how I still play Super Smash Bros. Melee.

[pCeSlAyEr]

This particular chip will not allow homebrew to be executed. However, DVD-FW modifications don't have the sole purpose of piracy. Backups of your games which you paid hard-earned cash for, are a definate bonus. Hell, that's how I still play Super Smash Bros. Melee.
you sure about the homebrew? im not too sure about it for the NGC potion of the Wii.. seeing as I can already run GCoS and play emulators on the Wii..

[shangrula]

I can't see this as good news :(

[brywalker]

I can't see this as good news :(

Says the person with a Cobra v1.1....

[saleem]

i will buy a wii only when the modchip is a concrete and infallable way to boot backups without any implications.

its only good to me for the more mature MANLY games.i got a modded gc and that looks like a womans makeup box with an handle.only good for zelda windwaker/metroid and res evil games.all the multiport games that come out i will get for my 360,its more mature and MANLY.

wii!played by women/ninnies and spazz's.

games that look like the kindergaten developed it!

so am i saying your ninnies and spazz's for having a wii?

simple YES!
:p

[Jester2000]

I think you have missed the point, this thread is about a new mod chip for the wii not reasons to buy one.

[mickcris]

i will buy a wii only when the modchip is a concrete and infallable way to boot backups without any implications.

its only good to me for the more mature MANLY games.i got a modded gc and that looks like a womans makeup box with an handle.only good for zelda windwaker/metroid and res evil games.all the multiport games that come out i will get for my 360,its more mature and MANLY.

wii!played by women/ninnies and spazz's.

games that look like the kindergaten developed it!

so am i saying your ninnies and spazz's for having a wii?

simple YES!
:p

Did you actually use the word ninnies? And you are calling people owning a wii kindergardners.

[razuraw]

right after this gets released theres going to be a explosion of wii mod chips and it hasnt even been 2 months the wiis been out sad realy how ninteno putting almost zero effort on the security. they just changed drive password to lower case lol.

[Clockwork_]

grml, a modchip would be great, but i want to use the rev just like the xbox before as media-center (or better with linux und some usp-peripherals as dvr),
not only to play backups

[Perkele]

...and is expected to retail for around 35 euro's.
35 euros? What a rip off.
It looks to be a pic12c50x chip or the ATtiny 11 and those cost like 2 euro unprogrammed.
Hopefully it is the pic12c50x bcs i have sitting plenty of those from back when the PS1 was hot.

[Tomobobo]

you sure about the homebrew? im not too sure about it for the NGC potion of the Wii.. seeing as I can already run GCoS and play emulators on the Wii..
That's a good point, man. Let's hope GC homebrew discs work!

[xllzerollx]

i will buy a wii only when the modchip is a concrete and infallable way to boot backups without any implications.

its only good to me for the more mature MANLY games.i got a modded gc and that looks like a womans makeup box with an handle.only good for zelda windwaker/metroid and res evil games.all the multiport games that come out i will get for my 360,its more mature and MANLY.

wii!played by women/ninnies and spazz's.

games that look like the kindergaten developed it!

so am i saying your ninnies and spazz's for having a wii?

simple YES!
:p

well, as much as i hate to say it($250+$50), you are right, now i have a reason to keep my wii, not even zelda is good enough(mario 1 for nes is 10 times harder)
i just dont feel MANLY enough having this piece of crap with 10 y/o games

[Z80]

For existing systems I doubt Nintendo will do much of anything. However for new systems, they may again change the password, or better yet remove the debug command all together. But you never know. However this does make me more interested in buying a Wii sooner rather than later.

[satel]

kiddies world:D

[gonepostl]

I'm pissed off. This isn't the kind of mod we want. Can emu_kidid dump the code and work it onto gcos? Emu_kidid. If you see this please give us some insight.

[wiggim]

nice vid, might want to delete it dude.. TV glare is a *****.

[Jacksoft]

ASD! Like a PSX Modchip!
Well, I'll wait for the chip model and I'll go to buy at electronic shop...
And wait for a chip-fw dump :E

Just 1 euro *_*

[ku16610]

wii update sorry why do u need to update your wii , what have we gained from updating so far , cos i`m still yet to see any reason why an update would need to be installed ever.

[shangrula]

Says the person with a Cobra v1.1....
I see what you're saying but I was talking about in general, not me specifly.

I have no intention of stating my ownership and purchase details of consoles & games

I'm just glad nintendo make a profit on the console

[evlspcmk]

I see what you're saying but I was talking about in general, not me specifly.

I have no intention of stating my ownership and purchase details of consoles & games

I'm just glad nintendo make a profit on the console


lol even if every one just buys the console with no intention if getting a sigle game for it nintendo still get profit unlike sony and microsoft.... if i were nintendo id have made it easier to hack it so every one went out and got it increasing my profits...

[emu_kidid]

I'm pissed off. This isn't the kind of mod we want. Can emu_kidid dump the code and work it onto gcos? Emu_kidid. If you see this please give us some insight.

Nope it can't be done.

However this mod can be used with GCOS later on to have pretty much all the same functions as it used to, apart from multigame(?)/network.

Don't worry but the Wii can be GC region free with a small swap with a custom app.

[Silversand]

Well, smart ass, if you'd read, I didn't claim to say the a single Wii had multiple regions. I simply was informing you that the chip did not work with "1 region" but the SAME REGION AS THE WII IT WAS INSTALLED IN.I thought that when I said "single(1) region" that it meant the same as "same region" I didn't mean to make you so mad. I'm sorry.

Also, I am saing that converting a Wii game's ISO region isn't possible if you're going to be using this chip, due to the fact that changing anything on the Wii image would break the signature, and render the disc unplayable. Yes, it worked with the PSX, PS2, Saturn, but only because the bootable files weren't signed. The Xbox's executeables were signed, but were able to be booted after modification due to the fact that the chips that were out, and the hacks that were available allowed booting of UNSIGNED code.

Wow, you're a smart ass.I'm sorry I made you so mad that you needed to call me that. Can we call a trues? You just keep ripping on me for no reason... did I say something to offend you?

[gonepostl]

Nope it can't be done.

However this mod can be used with GCOS later on to have pretty much all the same functions as it used to, apart from multigame(?)/network.

Don't worry but the Wii can be GC region free with a small swap with a custom app.

I want to play backups and homebrew. Not to pressure you or anything. I aint about that. But did you just say that you could tamper with the code and put it into gcos, allowing wii backups via softmod? But we wouldn't have multi-game function or network option? I'm sure I speak for everybody else when I say THAT'S FINE! I probably blew it way out of context. If I did I'm sorry.

[Gleasonator]

I want to play backups and homebrew. Not to pressure you or anything. I aint about that. But did you just say that you could tamper with the code and put it into gcos, allowing wii backups via softmod? But we wouldn't have multi-game function or network option? I'm sure I speak for everybody else when I say THAT'S FINE! I probably blew it way out of context. If I did I'm sorry.

Baby steps... baby steps...

[gonepostl]

Baby steps... baby steps...

Exactly, that's what I'm sayin! I would just like some insight from someone much smarter then me to confirm/deny if this is possible/not possible to impliment into gcos, that's all I want to know. It's not like I'd want it tomorrow or even months down the line! I'm just too excited and hoping emu_kiddid will come back and set me straight.:eek:

[sk8er_4_life_ez]

35 euros? What a rip off.
It looks to be a pic12c50x chip or the ATtiny 11 and those cost like 2 euro unprogrammed.
Hopefully it is the pic12c50x bcs i have sitting plenty of those from back when the PS1 was hot.



same thing i said i would rather buy one copy it and make my own

[11111]

WHEN someone ends up copying the chip then we'll all have alternatives and it'll drop in price pretty quick *cough, viper, cough*.

competition = good.

[Magiske]

Anyone know what PIC it is ??

/M

[Perkele]

Anyone know what PIC it is ??
IF it's a PIC it's probably a 12C50x or 12F50x, the latter is flashable.

And it looks like they used the info that was given away for free with the Linux Wii Drive Tool, the pads to be used were in the readme. The password that needs to be injected they got for free from Tmbinc at 23C3.

[mosca.br]

Anyway, the code to do what they needed, wasn't included in neither of them.

They might have been helped by both, but they are the first to market.

[kneehighspy]

i agree, seems like a simple mod via 50x or the AT. yeah i've got quite a few of the old 50x's laying about myself just wanting to be used for something.


35 euros? What a rip off.
It looks to be a pic12c50x chip or the ATtiny 11 and those cost like 2 euro unprogrammed.
Hopefully it is the pic12c50x bcs i have sitting plenty of those from back when the PS1 was hot.

[crono]

About the region's is seems like a dvd frimware mod so it play's only the region from console,but wasn't changing your console's region on gamecube super simpel by just solder a bridge between 2 points?? becuase if you can do the same on wii,i will change my wii from pal to ntsc in a sec :) whitout thinking about it,ntsc always get the games faster. :D

[peppers]

i have yet to see any actual installation diagrams that actually shows were you are supose to soder the wires I wonder what is up with that

[drewmerc]

think i'll wait for this (if its real)
http://www.wii-modchips.com/viper-wii.htm

well just the loader aslong as it will hopefully work on my viper
http://www.wii-modchips.com/wiiloader.htm

[Whitewiz]

think i'll wait for this (if its real)
http://www.wii-modchips.com/viper-wii.htm

well just the loader aslong as it will hopefully work on my viper
http://www.wii-modchips.com/wiiloader.htm

lol have tou read the text?^^

Its like someone have written about the viper for gc and put in the word wii here and there. And also forgotten about deleting the text about gamecube. SOO FAKE I LAUGH MY ASS OUT.

Previously the only common way to run user code on the Nintendo Wii was to use a LAN Adapter combined with a security hole in Phantasy Star Online.
Alternatively, the DuoWii and XenoWii are available. They don't have the features of the Viper, but do allow booting of homebrew programs such as SNES and burnt games.